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Author Thread: The State of U.S. Democracy
Jerome
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Monday, October 10, 2005 12:24 PM (EST)

What is the state of U.S. Democracy?  Responding to President Bush’s criticism of the Russian political process, Vladimir Putin questioned how open the American process is with only two choices.  Appearing for an interview on PBS’s NOW on October 7, Kurt Vonnegut posed the same question, asking how much diversity is there in politics if both of the 2004 presidential candidates were members of the secret society Skull & Bones at Yale?  Following this line of thought, how come neither candidate was asked about this secretive group that both belonged to at the time of their entering manhood?  Could it be the 30 plus pages of debate rules prevented the raising of the topic?

 

Al Gore recently announced the launch of Current TV, an interactive video production distributed over the Internet.  Mr. Gore questions the state of our democracy when the essential exchange of ideas has become so limited first by the one-way distribution of radio and then television, further exacerbated today by media consolidation.  Furthermore, Paul Bigioni provides a thoughtful comparison of the American political and economic system to that of the Nazi regime in the Real Threat of Fascism.  No we are not suggesting that the U.S. will ultimately engage in genocide, but the other similarities are disturbing.  Consider this insight from Bigioni,

 

“Before the rise of fascism, Germany and Italy were liberal democracies. Fascism did not swoop down on these nations as if from another planet. To the contrary, fascist dictatorship was the end result of political and economic processes which these nations underwent while they were still democratic. In both these countries, economic power became so utterly concentrated that the bulk of all economic activity fell under the control of a handful of men. Economic power, when sufficiently vast, becomes by its very nature political power. The political power of big business supported fascism in Italy and Germany.”

 


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Jerome
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Friday, November 04, 2005 11:51 AM (EST)

What does it say about our Democracy if right wing organizations are paying people to protest in favor of the Iraq war?  Who is it that is willing to invest their money in promoting this aggression?

[Cindy Sheehan and other protestors] headed to the vigil at the White House for our hours long wait in the freezing cold. There was a man there who had several signs which among them said: "Saddam loves Cindy." This man didn't care that Rumsfeld (or Rumsfailed as I accidentally called him on an interview yesterday) was buddy, buddy with Saddam and gave him or sold him tons of WMDs before he became our enemy. I told this man that he didn't bother me, and he told me I don't bother him either. Well, if I don't bother him, why did he come down and make signs and march for hours screaming that I kill our soldiers? We found out why. He was making 60 dollars an hour to do so from some non-profit, right wing group. He said he would switch signs if we gave him more money.

Jerome
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Friday, November 04, 2005 12:12 PM (EST)

How many readers were aware of voting irregularities during the Iraqi vote on the Constitution?  The description below received a brief mention on Washington Week and ABC News, the latter being the source of the story.  When the news does not report significant developments in Iraq, what is the quality of information that the public is basing their opinions upon?  A democracy cannot work with an uninformed or misled electorate.

Partial Text Washington Week Transcript on Martha Raddatz discussing ballot stuffing.  Full Text Below.  October 21, 2005

Analysis: Week's developments in Iraq

GWEN IFILL, host: Now to Iraq. This was supposed to be another one of those corner-turning moments--a successful constitutional referendum, the prosecution of Saddam, or at least the beginning of it. Martha Raddatz is just back--36 hours on the plane--from witnessing all of this on the ground in Iraq.

Was it the definitive week the administration was hoping for, Martha?

Ms. MARTHA RADDATZ (ABC News): Oh, it certainly wasn't, particularly with the constitution. I think that last weekend it seemed like such a definitive time. There were so many people out voting. I was in a Sunni neighborhood, and to see these people streaming into this neighborhood to vote for the first time--I was in the Abu Ghraib neighborhood of the infamous prison, but it's a Sunni-dominated area--you had people there never before voted, coming forward, holding up the finger proudly and all saying, `No, no, no, we didn't vote for the constitution.' What's hard here, however, is we still do not know the definitive results. It was supposed to be out in a couple of days, but there are some irregularities and I can tell you right now I witnessed them. When we went into the polling places--and it was interesting, the first polling place wouldn't let cameras in. The second one was, `Come on in, come on in.' I thought, `This'll change under democracy. We'll come back in four years. This'll never happen again.' We were behind the voting booth. My cameraman was back there and there was a man who took seven ballots, at least, because we have it on camera and marked yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes...

IFILL: One guy?

Ms. RADDATZ: One guy and he wasn't the only one. And as my cameraman pointed out, we were only in there 20 minutes and we saw a variety of people...

... IFILL: …so who's responsible?

Ms. RADDATZ: …So those kind of irregularities and there were some neighborhoods where, I believe, up in Irbil or somewhere up north there was 99 percent voted yes. When you get over 90 percent, you start thinking something might be up. So that's going to take a while. And the hard part here as well is once the election commission comes out and says, `This is how it was. There were or were not irregularities,' whether that sticks with the populations--again, especially the Sunnis and the Sunni Arabs have been largely responsible for the insurgency and felt this disaffected by this--if it passes, there are these irregularities, they see our film, that's going to be trouble.

wert12
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:10 PM (EST)
this should actually be a non issue. America is not a democracy and hence if its democracy (or attempt to morph into one) is in shambles then all the better. If we want a democracy then there is a lot of work to be done.

Jerome
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 7:12 AM (EST)

The Rise of Fascism in America

 

    Fascism in America won’t come with jackboots, book burnings, mass rallies, and fevered harangues, nor will it come with black helicopters or tanks on the street. It won’t come like a storm—but as a break in the weather, that sudden change of season you might feel when the wind shifts on an October evening: Everything is the same, but everything has changed. Something has gone, departed from the world, and a new reality will have taken its place. All the old forms will still be there: legislatures, elections, campaigns—plenty of bread and circuses. But “consent of the governed” will no longer apply; actual control of the state will have passed to a small and privileged group who rule for the benefit of their wealthy peers and corporate patrons.

 

    To be sure, there will be factional conflicts among the elite, and a degree of debate will be permitted; but no one outside the privileged circle will be allowed to influence state policy. Dissidents will be marginalized—usually by “the people” themselves. Deprived of historical knowledge by a thoroughly impoverished educational system designed to produce complacent consumers, left ignorant of current events by a corporate media devoted solely to profit, many will internalize the force-fed values of the ruling elite, and act accordingly. There will be little need for overt methods of control.

 

    The rulers will act in secret, for reasons of “national security,” and the people will not be permitted to know what goes on in their name. Actions once unthinkable will be accepted as routine: government by executive fiat, state murder of “enemies” selected by the leader, undeclared wars, torture, mass detentions without charge, the looting of the national treasury, the creation of huge new “security structures” targeted at the populace. In time, this will be seen as “normal,” as the chill of autumn feels normal when summer is gone. It will all seem normal.

 

    --Chris Floyd, November 10, 2001 Moscow Times (English edition)

Jerome
The State of U.S. Democracy
Posted: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:30 AM (EST)

Let’s also consider the state of U.S. Democracy in light of the detention and torture bill and a possible trend towards Fascism in America.  Does it concern anyone that Homeland Security and Pentagon are monitoring peace activists?  If this were acceptable intelligence gathering and not against the principles of the Right to Free Assembly and the ability to challenge the course of government, how come we have not heard about them monitoring right wing groups too?  Is it possible that activists will some day be detained indefinitely as unlawful enemy combatants with no right to challenge their detention?






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